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Dr Bill Deagle Radio show, Guests Dr William Pawluk,
Dr Bob Dennis Discuss PEMF and the Soma Pulse.

Bill:
Welcome back to the Nutrimedical Report and we bring you cutting edge information from the top doctors and researchers in the world. We have Dr. Bob Dennis, developer of the somapulse and Dr. Bill Pawluk, director in medical, specialist in the area of the, I call, comprehensive functional medicine. Welcome to the program Dr. Bob Dennis, Ph.D. and Dr. Bill Pawluk, M.D.


Dr. Bob Dennis, tell us the history behind the somapulse and I guess a little introduction about the idea of being a scientific skeptic which I think is a healthy thing to do and when you’re developing any new theory or research in something or developing a product, the skeptic that is very rigorous just to throw anomalies out and could use to pursue it is for a healthier intellectually and scientifically and will actually create a kind of a new breakthrough in terms of scientific advancement. Tell us about the history of the somapulse. How you got involved and how this ties back into NASA research.

Dr. Bob Dennis:
Well, thanks for me in your program, thanks for inviting me. And yeah, I think you’re absolutely right. When you do scientific research as I do, I’m an engineer biomedical instrumentation designer. I do research in. It’s always a big mistake to try to prove that your theory, your favourite theory or your favourite idea is correct. That always lead you down the wrong path scientifically. Sometimes it’s kind of harmless but medical things, you really need have to good healthy, what we call scientific skepticism, and it doesn’t mean that you need to be cynical or that you should discount something out of hand. But it’s very important that you don’t bias yourself apriori to try to find the results that you want. Rather you need to be looking for the truth and otherwise you kind of go down the wrong way scientifically and you just can’t help it. So it’s an important thing to start that right. So back in the mid 1990s some scientist from NASA contacted me and asked me to build a for their research involving growing stem cells and growing tissues in culture. And my immediate response to that was that I thought it was really unlikely that would have any kind of a beneficial or even measureable 03:14. I was sceptical to begin with.

Bill:
Did they have a self culture in the space station, and have some unusual observation that started the whole process of making these questions or looking at these anomalies?

Dr. Bob Dennis:
Yeah, they do. Well, I don’t know initially what got them interested in it. I think they had an interest because we do know that magnetic and radio frequency background at space is different from what it is on the ground. And NASA does try to run a pretty healthy on the ground which is much more expensive research activity in to what they do in space. And there’s a lot of things that you can do in zero gravity, biologically they’re really hard to do at 1g but they want to have an possible. They want to understand where space is a novel, environment versus where it’s just a little bit different from, on the surface on the planet. So initially I was invited to help them with this device for use on the ground with the understanding that they would eventually set devices to go onto their mid-dock lockers on the space shuttle which are the places where you put scientific experiments, a large space on the space shuttle and so that was the plan. So they asked me to do this and I, initially was very sceptical and I said, ‘Look guys, let me review the literature but I don’t think it’s going to be very good.’ I actually read over 660 papers stretching back to 1790 actually, from published in 1791. And yeah, 660 papers is a lot. There’s a whole field of research that don’t have that many published papers. The people that have been working on magnetism and biological systems, you know have been thinking about it for thousands of years but nobody really had what I would consider compelling proof. So I reviewed the literature. I felt the literature quality is low that it wasn’t reliable so I didn’t waste time with it. They asked me anyway. They finally prevailed upon this, to design the experiments so I did, I designed them very strict. Double blind experiment. I made all the instrumentation. I kept the meaning of the various vials everything strictly secret during the experiment. They ran the experiment with double blind and much to my surprise did some very significant effect of certain types of field on cells growing in culture. They were very beneficial effect. It increased the growth rate, increased the rate of exercise over matrix production. So being the sceptical kind that I am, by my nature, I said, ‘Okay, I don’t believe it but do the experiment again.’ And we repeated it. Again blind, and again got same results which subsequently got published by the guy I was working with at NASA. So that’s where it started.

Bill:
How many years ago would that be? 1997. So what I heard from Dr. Pawluk is that apparently it was an observation made in space head of surgeons, stem cell activity and their stem cell culture experiments. What do you think is the biological process that’s going on that causes the pulse magnetic field to have an effect? And of course there’s a very specific way for, you’ve designed. Was it very high signalled to lowest ratio? What do you think that does this effect?

Dr. Bob Dennis:
Well, you know, it’s interesting that you’ve mentioned that because I just probably 45 minutes ago was speaking with Dave Wolf who is the scientist that you’re referring to at NASA. He’s also an astronaut and he was the person that we were referring to at this experiment. And we actually was just talking about, an hour ago or so and we’re still not sure what’s going on. And Dave Wolf, in addition to being an astronaut, he has an M.D. very, very bright guy. And we were talking about it just earlier today. We still don’t exactly know what the mechanism is. I’m not a 100% clear on the exact date that they got. I don’t know if it was anecdotal going over in different places or order. There’s a lot of things that’s going on in outer space, right? Cosmic rays is coming in. Gamma rays versus different things. All kinds of stuff going on so it’s really hard to say how well controlled the experiment was. Maybe, there’s a lot of things happening on the shuttle.

Bill:
What are the you’d expect was called a magnetic moment to be very high rate over the pulse and that magnetic moment would brush the electrons to the other. What I heard from some other experts on magnetic field is that there’s a lean effect where pulse, magnetic field lose electrons to increase chemical reactions in a key max of enzymes. That’s one of the effects. The other one of course is, there are all kinds of different effects. There’s a thing I call psychotron residence, which you’re probably familiar with, where you get energy that if it’s in the right frequency range will transfer energy to a molecule and that resonate with that frequency. We have different wave forms. They have different effects in terms of energy transfers and so you did all the very special wave forms. Tell us about this wave form and what makes it unique compared to even other pulse magnetic devices because you’re able to do a where we have a very high signalled device ratio although the field is much weaker in some of the more powerful machines. The wave form is very different. Tell us about that.

Dr. Bob Dennis:
Yeah, that’s right. My research is, it’s not that I make a living out of this as a professor, involves engineering and so I have a different velocity than most people who do that research and it fairs directly on your question. Briefly, I have always endeavoured to determine what’s the absolute minimum signal that can be used to achieve the desired biological event or response. And it’s kind of a contrast to most researchers. Their trying to block tissues with a big signal effect. But I found that the more careful you are, the lower you reduce, you know, as much as you can reduce the energy, what you do is you start to get rid of the undesired because there’s too much energy and you get more and more of the sort of desired outcome.

Bill:
We’ll be right back.

Welcome back and we have Dr. Bill Pawluk, M. D. and Dr. Bob Dennis, Ph.D. researcher in the area of tissue engineering and electromedicine. So I was wondering about the history of this research in terms of the wave form and why is it so powerful.

Dr. Bob Dennis:
We had a very widely discussion there in the, very interesting. I’ll sort of touch upon that. The key to the research that I was doing once I was convinced that there was an effect was to figure out what part of the electromagnetic intervention I was using was a signal versus what part was just sort of noise or unnecessary. So I spend a lot of time removing different parts of the signal and that’s a kind of a complicated physics math engineering thing where you process the signals different ways, you remove a certain component and briefly speaking, I’ve converged on the very low energy wave form that stimulates the type of nerves stimuli that you normally see in the muscular skeletal system to maintain a posture, to maintain a sort of a tone of muscle and other related tissues in the muscular skeletal system. So a wave form that I’ve developed, there’s actually three of them, are based on known physiological wave forms that exists in the tissue even all the way back you know in the utero before one is born, we’ve been able to measure all types of life forms. So the device as I have it designed, is to emulate the parts of electromagnetic wave forms you would see when you are walking or doing physical activity or exercising, so emulating those wave forms in the space around the cells in terms of how it’s moving ions around the cells, is causing that movement to happen, but it doesn’t really require you to have the actual physical loading of the exercise. So you’re going to get the signal you get from an exercise or exertion without the actual chemical load. So you get the signal that there’s a load but you’re not getting a mechanical load that would actually cause actual damage. So I think that’s what’s happening to the cells. They’re getting the signal, saying hey I’ve been exercising, I need to heal. But they don’t really have the vantage associate with exercise, so the healing actually seems to be much quicker. Because it doesn’t fix anything to begin with, right? And if don’t use all the unnecessary energy signal, you don’t have collateral damage. So it’s all upside. At least that’s the design.

Bill:
Yeah, that’s really good. That’s a good explanation. The other thing is of course is the trapezoidal wave form that you used is going to give an energy transfer that’s going to cover a broad range of frequencies rather than either a sign wave or a wave that’s has 13:10 alterations that don’t intend to lock on specific stitches and structures that have created a resident capacitor effect.

Dr. Bob Dennis:
Well, that’s right. There’s no simple explanation, if I could explain it to you, we we’re discussing it earlier but you got to do some calculations to get. Also it’s a little bit of calculus and physics to answer those equations and physiology as I understand it anyway in terms of promoting functional adaptation in tissues and you can actually calculate what sort of wave forms you need and then you have to do some calculus using the max lowe equation which we actually done and I’ve published that earlier this year in a peer-reviewed article. But basically you get a previewed guess at the starting point if you are looking at that way. But now it’s a little bit involved and that’s what we did, that’s what I did actually, my student…

Bill:
Yeah, you did macro equations to look at the energy transfer to the biological system.

Dr. Bob Dennis:
That’s right, and we did this electromagnetic transduction using the third equation which is one of four of max lowe’s equation to calculate the energy that we would induce during the change magnetic field and so that’s how the system ended up being designed was when I realized, when I was it was happening, I’m sort of designing it that way and that’s when it started to be really consistently effective. And then we we’re able to take out everything that didn’t contribute to that so that we would know all the signal that didn’t contribute to that. And we see no reduction and that I’ve reduced the energy requirement by many magnitude. So now there’s this device compared to any other energy device that we carry on our website, the pulse we carry the and the PMT, but the PMT I consider like a, it’s like having an Austrian Olympic training coach that if you take a they’re going to over, kind of, can easily overdo somebody. The is a little safer, it’s locked on specific frequencies so it’s powerful biological effects on sodium potassium channels and other things, but this would be more frequency specific because of the specific wave form. This device I think is very gentle that it work pretty well. You put it on and if after ten minutes, if you have pain and if you’ve also noticed that if you’re trying to heal something, you can use it for hours and hours. In other words, the best thing is for you to put in a battery and it would last for the next 24 or 36 hours rechargeable 4-5 hours. But usually that’s it and what I love about the machine so far is. Just put it in your pocket, clip it to your shirt, I did it with my daughter, trying to make her laugh cause she’s 19 with a down syndrome it was like iron me you see a little LED flashing, and it works. And the neat thing about it is it works very gentle. It doesn’t kind of hit you where you get that big, let’s say from the PMT. And you’re not tied to a machine. You can actually do the exercise when you’re in your 30s

Bill:
Dr. Pawluk what do you notice about the somapulse compared to in your very experience, was the PMT. What would you say, where would you say the niche for this particular machine is? The price point is really good, it’s easier for people to get. It stimulates the healing, it controls pain, it’s a very major factor that most illnesses we have, in the sense that almost 90% of the illness that we face every day is basically an aging illness where we lack exercise matrix, organs and mitochondria and the ability to regenerate tissues on a daily basis through peer organs that accumulates and eventually we end up with singular or multi-system organ failure. What would you say is different about this compared to the other machines?

Dr. Pawluk:
Well, all post magnetic field systems have their benefits. They have certain features to them, you’ve mentioned some of them, some of them relating to frequencies and intensities. Basically you have local treatments, systems and you have whole body treatment system like we’ve described in .

Bill:
Yeah, is good for whole body detox and for calming the nervous system and for specific the whole body for stem cells or something.

Dr. Pawluk:
has a modified way where… and the PMT has, well, I don’t know how you describe that way. It’s just a very rapid. But you know, the key thing about the somapulse is the portability. That’s one of the key things about this. Obviously, you know, the genesis of the device with the stem cell research and the growth factory that it stimulates and promotes produces significant recovery in tissues very rapidly. And as you said, with very minimal side effects. In fact I can relate myself. I tore my knee getting out of my seat on an airplane about two months ago and it was very, very sore to put any pressure on my knee. I went to an orthopaedic doctor and he wanted to do a steroid injection. I said, ‘No, no, no. I’ll just use my somapulse, which I did, about eight hours a day. And then walking with it and then about three or four weeks after I tried using it, the discomfort, the swelling, everything was gone. I reinjured it this past Sunday, did the same thing for about 8 to 10 hours…

Bill:
Amazing…

Welcome back to the Nutrimedical Report and we have Dr. Bob Dennis, Ph.D. and Dr. Bill Pawluk, M.D. Dr. Bill that’s really an interesting testimony. I’ve, similar thing, where I just recently used my somapulse and God knows within a few days it worked really well. I mean, it need be healed without the discomfort or the what I call, the shock factor of the more powerful machines which we all use a few minutes outside the PMT as a. And it worked so nicely. In other words, it didn’t have any sense of discomfort where everybody just, over a number of hours, just healed. So Dr. Dennis, tell us more about the use of this kind of device and not only for healing tissues and stem cells, but I believe a whole range of conditions are what I call low redux state. When you’re raising the redux state of cells and tissues, you increase the ATP and NADH, you change the cell membrane in potential, in ion channel of difference of sodium potassium sitting across the cell membranes. And of course we know that auto immune diseases and cancer are low redux state where abnormal sugar metabolisms going on like . How do you apply these, for example, to increase sensitivity to chemotherapy for cancer patients, which you would expect pulse magnetic fields have an effect. We know is helpful for that and there’s a number of nutricuticals that can blood supply change metabolism, and repair DNA, and admirable switching genes. Tell us about the effects on, say cancer, not on 20:26, cause my new feeling is low redux states is the basis for every illness. And when you raise the redux state, whether it’s cancer, or generative disease, or lack of proper to replace. Pretty well all the illnesses are tied back to a low redux state, I think.

Doctor:
Well, that’s, I think that’s absolutely correct. I wish, you know, some of this conversation we’ve been having offline is extremely interesting. But it’s a shame we can’t just have a completely continuous conversation because we go off on these various interesting tangents but I absolutely agree with on some of the things you. Briefly, my answer to you is, I think, that what’s happened is that the wave form that I’m using, although it was initially designed to emulate exercise, we know that actually started the process helpful benefits far beyond just increasing the strength of the muscle and the of the bones, as you know…

Bill:
In other words, the exercise self generates a healing currents through the body, in other words. Are you saying it generates healing currents? These healing currents have effects on stem cells and ECM. One of the things I heard is that exercise, one of its primary benefits is, which means exactly what you’re saying, it generates micro currents in the tissues that stimulates stem cell differentiation and extra cellular matrix.

Doctor:
That’s right. And we don’t know, you can check the scientific literature. We don’t fully understand how the body really responds to exercise especially low intensity exercise, which we know is very beneficial. But we just don’t know exactly what all the mechanisms are, how the cells are it. It’s called chemo-mechanical transduction. We don’t understand these things but what I think we stumbled upon by trying to stimulate low intensity gentle exercise is that we’re getting a lot of the benefits, which you get from low intensity gentle exercise even if the tissue is so damaged that you couldn’t exercise it without damaging it. So we’re simply emulating the exercise and we’re aiming a number of the benefits of exercise without the mechanical trauma. And now…

Bill:
Yeah, one of the things that I’ve heard, can it possibly be a theory, I call the redux of, I want to call, staging theory. So a stage 1 tissue is a stage where tissues are healthy, hybrid, lots of ATP, no cell pathogens, no toxins. It’s cells are able to detoxify mitochondrian cellular looks nice and fresh and is. Stage 2 is low redux state where they’re starting to be some cell pathogens inside the cellular toxins. There are starting to be DNA, if you want to call it maybe a heterotropic DNA chunk stuck in another chromosome if you put it on scanning electromicroscopy. Stage 3 your cells are really, really sick, low redux state, lots of pathogens inside, microbacteria fungi, microtoxins, level high, genetic defects occurring, mitochondria big and bloated, organelles now no more. The cells are not replacing damaged organelles. And the cell is also switching anaerobic glycolisis cause in low redux state they could generate some energy but it just, the whole mitochondrial energy system is going to shut. One of the things that I try to use as analogy if you have a person that, say 93 years of age and they don’t have digestive enzymes, giving them their last meal doesn’t mean anything because they can’t digest it. Where as you get a sick tissue and you now exercise it magnetically, which you couldn’t otherwise, that tissue is going to get raised to redux state of that tissue which could not happen in any other way. So I think that’s what you’re getting at, is that you’re saying, you can increase the redux state of tissues in no other way could you get that redux state up. So it’s not the healthy tissues, which vitamins and nutrients, it’s the unhealthy tissues that can’t repair themselves you have to address. You have to triage into the cells and tissues that are most distressed. And most of our supplements and are medical therapy doesn’t address that. It addresses tissues that are already healthy that are going to pull in those nutrients and respond much because they’re already healthy and they can respond more easily.

Doctor:
That’s precisely correct. That is my viewpoint on what’s happening putting it in simpler terms, extending one of our conversations a lot of diseases are diseases of aging and frankly I believe that during the aging process, now that we all live so long, your cells often becomes much less responsive to signals that normally in your youth, you’d be very responsive to. So it takes more and more of a signal to get a cell to do what you want it to do. And of course more and more exercise can be helpful. So I think part of what’s going on is that part of what’s happening with the once again more receptive to signals that might already be there. And so I think the whole healing process is true because you’re making, you’re affecting a positive improvement in the basic state of the tissue. It’s basic ability to receive information respond.

Bill:
Yeah, what kind of experience have you had with cancer and other illnesses besides pain and…

Doctor:
Well, it’s very limited. It’s very limited. And I haven’t studied it but one of the things we find is that, we’ve had a few people use the device who already had cancer and in very late stages. Just a few people have tried it and they said, ‘Yeah, it caused a lot of discomfort.’ And that’s really the only time I’ve ever heard anyone say that the device, which we talked about is very well energy, caused a lot of discomfort and Dr. Pawluk and I have talked about that, and I’m not sure that the discomfort is necessarily bad. We just don’t know. And so…

Bill:
Well we know that Dr gives research on magnetic fields and cancer at the Caroline’s Institute over the last 40 years. It suggested that cancer has basically have an electromagnetic shield around them and they even get a fiber capsule around the tumor secondaries. My guess is that cancer is an abnormal electrical, if you want to call, almost like a condition response in the tissues and there’s a change in the autonomic activity in that distribution which consist of the digital thermogram. You could also see when I play around with my experiments in Denver measuring surface microcurrents and structural analysis with the device from 27:09 enterprises that you can actually see abnormal microcurrents goes back to Dr. research back over a century ago, that looks at the idea of microcurrents in tissues, they call the L waves, the L currents. I think those frequencies actually regulate tissue structure and function and just like the tri-quarter from Bones of Startrek, were now going to have microcurrent if you want to call stethoscopes, but also once it will pick up specific electromagnetic waves that are over abnormal tissues that has, not only have normal signal issues going on, but abnormal redux states.

Doctor Pawluk:
Well, this is Dr. Pawluk, to try to emphasize the concept of healing in the body. Russians actually discovered that some time ago in dealing with our immune diseases where they found that one of the things magnetic fields do significantly is to increase circulation in the tissue. And when you start to increase circulation in the tissue, you do create some degree of oxidated stress but that’s part of the healing process. You have to have some inflammatory cells to heal things and what they found, i’d drop the concept consequently called…

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Bill:
Welcome back and we’re talking about the somapulse, if you go to nutrimedical.com, you can go down to somapulse and. Dr. Bill Pawluk is here, M.D. and Dr. Robert/Bob Dennis, Ph.D. developer of somapulse. It’s an amazing breakthrough. We’re moving toward the time when, enterprise and will have the tri-quarter. We are moving to the time where I call the biological singularity whether it’s 5, 10, or 20 years off, it’s within our lifetimes that literally of human tissues and cells does not need to necessarily occur. 90 percent of all the in our society, in one form or another, whether it’s immune failure, lack of organogenesis to regenerate heart muscle or brain tissue under the stress of toxins and pathogens is the cause of 90 percent of degeneration and death in our society. And again unless you die traumatically in the future, I don’t believe that people need to put age. I think that maybe we can consider heresy, but I think aging in the sense is an informational disorder that’s accumulated in the body and that mathematically, if you look at it, there’s no reason why human tissues need to age at all.

Doctor:
One of the things I, I did a presentation in Cambridge about anti-aging, and I described aging as death by a thousand cuts. We die in little pieces. We have all these injuries accumulated over time and that’s probably the most common cause of aging. Magnetic fields have reversed many of these aging defects or injury processes if you get at them early enough. Magnetic fields do not raise the dead.

Bill:
No, but it’s interesting though. I’ve never had some old injuries that were not been healed for a decade or more and they were dead but it’s amazing how forgone they were and how they actually regenerate the tissue and brought it back to normal. It’s like, ‘This is amazing,’ whether you have purple old knee injury or back injury from bad fall, it’s amazing how, with the right nutriceuticals like a enzyme and pulse magnetic fields, you can regenerate tissues that you think are impossible. The other thing that’s amazing and I believe, research on this is that the primary pain gate is one that’s controlled by the factors that are tied in with the collagen disruption. Whether it’s the, the spine that collagen is a major factor contributing to pain and one of the things that I’ve seen about the somapulse it turns out pain very nicely and very quickly. Very gently. It’s kind of amazing because we get all these people now that are addicted with this big story about this player that had chronic pain. There’s a lot of. They’re popping a lot of narcotics and other drugs and a lot of them gets very depressed with the combination of the pain meds and maybe psychiatric meds like can allow them to kind of release violent behaviour like this player that killed himself and his wife or girlfriend. My guess is this is going to be a major breakthrough for psychtraumatic brain injury for people that got changes and maybe in combination with stem cell injection are applied in rich plasma, it’s a matter of bringing the whole mixture together so you’ll have the right energen to reproduce the situation you have the, fetus, the embryo, or the new born so you basically have new born hidden capacity restored to an adult person.

Doctor:
Yeah and I think the problem that we have is that how can something like this do so much? I think that’s really the question. We’re so preoccupied with this disease and that treatment, this disease and that treatment. What I’m talking about here is a technology that operates in such a basic cellular level that it’s able to heal across a whole spectrum of pathologies and diseases.

Bill:
So now it doesn’t matter if you’ve got a obstruction, you had an opposite damage to your on your eye. It doesn’t matter if you got a short of a disc or you got coronary artery nanobacteria and heavy metals. It doesn’t matter what it is, our high redux state will help to heal almost virtually any illness including viral liver.

Doctor:
Including?

Bill:
Yeah, including. So a high redux state, that’s why energetic technology is the analogy of the term called power ones. Oxygen, nutrimeds, energetic technologies and that’s why this one, which is the most portable of all is so useful because you can sit 2 ½ inch by 3 ½ inch by a half inch sized device with an eyeball battery you can simply side to a pastry case put it in your pocket, hook it to your shirt and you can go about your business. You can go exercise and you have this on. What I do is get some micro port tape and tape the electrodes to elastic, stretch panties to its velcro and you can put this anywhere and nobody can even notice it on. You can put it on your shoulder, if your shoulder is causing you trouble. You can put it on your back. It’s pretty amazing. The electrodes are little but the magnetic field is big. So the larger ones, 2 inches, they have a field dimension visible the size of a basketball so you can put them right outside your knee, or you can put them over your back, you can put them over the kidneys and I believe it’s going to have an effect along with the whole approach I call to functional quantum medicine that looks at genetics, looks at toxicology, looks at stuff pathogens, looks at redux state. Where we’re going to move into whole range of medicine, it’s much more advanced than the quarter one drug, magic bullet idea of medicine which is, to be honest with you, doesn’t work system like the body.

Doctor:
Now listen Bill, I have to tell you something. I tell my patients all the time, when you buy one of these devices, you don’t own it. The house owns it, including the dogs, the cats, the plants.

Bill:
Yeah, that’s right. It’s amazing. Actually, we did some interesting work on seed germination and plant growth and we we’re using a parabolic trapezoidal wave form for this device I got from Holland that we discovered away. I was growing broccoli plants in that was 3 foot tall. I had a corn that was 7 and 8 feet tall that would grow like, you would almost hear them growing at night. It was weird; it was like Jack and the Beanstalk. And we realized and also we’ve discovered interestingly that sound waves cause pain. anybody within the injury and you put them is like, they start screaming within minutes, saying, ‘Turn it off! Turn it off!’ or ‘Change the wave form.’ So I agree totally that we’re starting to move into an area where looking at these Faraday equations and quantum physics and so on. We’re going to start realizing that the body is a quantum organism.

Doctor:
Well, I think you’re absolutely right and I assure you you’re optimism in the future and I’d like to make one comment pretty clear, if you really sort of mathematically look at the different types of PEMF wave forms, you could have, and if you calculate it, which is an interesting exercise, you get about 10 trillion, trillion with a T, different combinations of PEMF. Take a wild guess at it but really it’s not like it’d get you where you need to be. There has to be some rational scientific approach. But it’s interesting to know that there’s only some few hundred thousand different chemicals we have and there’s many millions of times more possible PEMF wave forms that could be used so I work under the assumption that the vast majority of those do nothing. A small number of them are harmful and a very small number of them are likely to be helpful. So I’m going research to make the device better and better, smaller, more portable, and yet improved qualities for the signals that we get the same or improved biological results.

Bill:
Yeah I think what you’re doing is you’re transferring energy to the processes themselves and let the body sort of which processes they kind of in another words, it’s not so powerful it over s the body but it supplies energy to the processes that need that activation energy just to get over the hump so they can actually start healing the body.

Doctor:
Precisely correct, that’s precisely the way I view it.

Bill:
Which is a good way, in other words, you’re not trying to hammer it through you don’t need to use a to make it fly.

Doctor
That’s exactly the way I view it and that’s what we endeavour to do so in addition to having this product the way that it is, we’re constantly working to make it a little bit better and a little bit better. So you can look forward optimistically to the to market, improved technologies every year for as long as I can keep working on it.

Bill:
Yeah the neat thing about it is that we should be able to start getting devices like the keys where the doctors will start working in, I call comprehensive and I like to use it instead of the alternative cause I think comprehensive medicine deals with things like domestic conventional things like imaging, CT scans, PET scans, or organic acids, genetic testing and so on, and toxicology and then gets into the area of elctromedicine where we start looking at the body as why Mrs. Johnson left being destroyed by is because the electrophysiology that left knee is completely different than the right knee. It’s a permissive thing so that the auto-immunity and the antibodies and the T cells can attack it without the electrophysiology there. And if you change it like the physiology, you change the terrain of the tissue which is really significant. And that’s why this device, I think, is going to be a real breakthrough. The price point is good. It’s portable. It’s safe. It’s something that doesn’t need even a doctor’s supervision. You just need to realize as Dr. Pawluk says, ‘It’s not your device it’s the houses’ device.’ Everybody that’s going to find it would want to use it.

Doctor:
You know I can tell we’ve never ever had anyone give one back. We’ve had a few people say it didn’t help me as much as I wanted it but yeah no one ever hands it back to me anyway.

Bill:
Well they need to have the other things involved in the equation. They need to detox, take the right nutriceauticals at the right building blocks and with the right redux state, I think the body can heal the but you need, let’s say the power ones, oxygen, nutrimeds, energetic and stem cells. Thanks a lot Dr. Bob Dennis, Dr. Bill Pawluk. Amazing interview today. We hope to have you back on soon. A remarkable device, the somapulse now in. Available in Nutrimedical. Just call us if you have any questions, we’ll give you more info. Again, heal and your body will heal itself.